ON
August 15, 1947, Sardar Vallabh Bhai Patel took over as the first
Deputy Prime Minister of India and Home Minister under the prime
ministership of Jawaharlal Nehru. Sardar Patel’s greatest contribution
was the integration of India, which at the point of Independence was
infested with a plethora of princely states
trying their best to
disintegrate the nation. More than half a century later, Shivraj Patil,
soft spoken, clearheaded and firm-handed Home Minister of India,
occupies the same seat as Sardar Patel, at a time when there are
several internal and external fissiparous forces trying to damage
India’s unity and integrity. The Home Minister, in an exclusive
interaction with The Day After Editor Sunil Dang and its Think
Tank Director, Yogendra Bali, spelt out his agenda. It was to keep
India united. A devotee of Satya Sai Baba and ardent fan of Indira
Gandhi, Shivraj Patil had distinguished himself as a firm speaker of
the Lok Sabha, upholding the majesty of the parliament.
Meeting the Home Minster a few days before the
Independence Day had special significance for The Day After family. He
was there about two decades ago when the journal was launched by the
then Prime Minister, Rajiv Gandhi. The DayAfter family
presented marking the advent of Manmohan Singh as the new Prime
Minister and the 20th birthday of The Day After, a copy with
some pride and joy, to the Home Minister.
Pointing out to a query of Day After that he
occupied today the same seat of the country’s home minister which
Sardar Patel occupied in Nehru’s time and faced the same challenges
from fissiparous and divisive forces, Home Minister Patil said, "It
would not be correct to compare me with a great man like Sardar Patel,
who was a great leader, a great politician and a great human being.
His contribution to India's freedom and democracy was invaluable. He
integrated this country. It is our duty to ensure that India remains
united and competitive in every field.
In his characteristic way, Patil spelt out two
vital ingredients of development and progress which formed the main
plank of the new government led by Manmohan Singh as the Prime
Minister and Sonia Gandhi as Congress president. They are peace and
unity. Without peace there could be no development and without law and
order and tranquility there could be no peace and progress.
When asked how is he going to link up development
with law and order and progress with peace?, the Home Minister said,
"These are not two contradictory things. If you do not have economic
development and distributive justice you cannot have peace. But if you
do not have peace it is difficult to have economic development. They
are inter-related. They are not contradictory." "There has to be a
holistic approach" towards the country’s needs and problems.
What he thought of the major challenges and
problems faced by him, his government and the country today? And what
are his top priorities? The Home Minister immediately thought a
clarification. He said, "you are asking me as a home minister, as a
part of the government or as a part of the united progressive
alliance"?
He said, "the most important thing is to see that
we keep the country united. To ensure that it is not divided on the
basis of religion, caste, creed and language. The second most
important thing is to develop the economy and help the needy. Give
them employment, develop agriculture, technology, industry, and trade
with other countries.
Replying about the movements for formation of new
states like Telengana and Harit Pradesh, Patil said "Such things are
coming up but we have to tell the people that united we are stronger
and divided we are weaker. And small considerations should not
overburden us. Right demands should be met."
The monsoon is India’s best friend and worst enemy.
Even at the present moment there are parts of the country in the
North-East, Bihar and West Bengal which are drowned by the Brahmputra
and other rivers in spate. There are other parts which are
drought-stricken. When asked what the Home Minister’s perspective on
meeting the monsoon enigma? he said, "You see this is not the
situation which is prevailing only this year. This is a situation
which prevails every year. Every year some parts of the country face
floods while some parts face droughts. We have lived with this
situation. We shall have to see that relief is given to the people and
long-term measures are taken to meet the situation. We have enough
food grains and medicine. It will be possible for us to give relief to
them. The Union Government has been doing its best in providing relief
to the
people."
In view of the assembly elections in his home state
Maharashtra at the end of this year, Sunil Dang pointedly asked "Do
you think you will come back?" The question obviously concerned the
Congress Party and its allies in Maharashtra. Patil said, "Well, we
will do our best to come back."
It was pointed out to the Home Minister that like
the once much hyped two-nation theory, a new two-laws theory was being
practiced in the political circles these days in order to target and
corner political celebrities of the rival parties. Did any law or
Constitution make any distinction between crimes of political and
non-political? Could we say that such and such crime as political and
such and such non -political?
The Home Minister said, "you have answered the
question yourself. This kind of distinction is not correct. A crime is
a crime whether you commit it in a political atmosphere or in any
other atmosphere. Crime is a crime and anyone who is responsible for
it and is going against the law will be dealt with."
It was pointed out to Patil that as a very
successful Speaker of the Lok Sabha in his own term as the presiding
officer, he had earned great respect and reputation in parliamentary
circles. But now the running of the august House was facing serious
problems. Many felt that the parliament did not belong to any
particular political party and it belonged to the nation. It should be
allowed to run in an orderly and graceful manner. Did he have any
suggestions on how to do that? His response was: "The present Speaker
of the Lok Sabha is a seasoned parliamentarian. And he will be able to
handle it. But we should not say that he alone is responsible for
handling it. All the parties sitting in the House should be allowed to
express their voice. They are allowed to demonstrate too. But there
should be a limit. And that helps."
The United Progressive Alliance coalition was
trying to set up new political paradigms and structures but its
opponents still indulged in wishful thinking that this government
would be short-lived and would not run beyond a few months, like they
used to speculate during the first emergence of Indira Gandhi. What
was your reaction to such speculations? The Home Minister said, "I
think, what is their reaction and what is our reaction is not
important. lt is important what is the people’s reaction. And I don’t
think people want another election or change of government. And we
would like to function if they want us to function."
Home Minister Patil was known to be a man who set
targets for himself and was known to achieve them. What were his
immediate targets now? In a reply he said, "Our dream and priority is
that the terrorists activities in some parts of the country are
controlled and contained. Our other objective is that understanding
the type of relations are developed with the states so that disasters
like floods and drought are controlled."
On the present demand from some of the North East
states regarding the repeal of the Armed Forces Special Powers Act, he
said, "This is the kind of demand which is sometimes raised from some
quarters. Sometimes even people who are involved in terrorism also try
to see that these type of demands are raised by innocent people. We
are not interested in having strong laws unless these are required. In
fact, we would like to rule without laws and with more understanding.
But if innocent people are put to inconvenience or trouble and lose
their lives and property there has to be a machinery to see that this
does not happen. And if somebody is opposed to it, he has to explain
to us how he would maintain the requisite kind of conditions".
The Home Minister’s attention was drawn to the SYL
wrangle between Punjab and Haryana where the two state units of the
Congress Party itself were pitted against one another. How could such
a dispute be resolved? His response was: "We believe in the judgment
of the people. They want to protect their interests. But they must
also realise that if they want to be happy, they should also ensure
that others too are happy. There is no problem in solving this issue
but if you do not subscribe to this principle - that of understansing
the other’s point of view too then there would be problems."
Asked whether any constructive results would come
from the on-going dialogues with the Hurriyat Conference
representatives in Jammu and Kashmir, the Home Minister said, "We
should keep talking. We should always keep talking to them. And this
is one of the methods for solving the problems. We think it should
help. So, we are carrying on the dialogue."
The interaction left us with the distinct
impression that the Home Minister, despite soft-spoken, was a man of
iron will and meant business.